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It is relevant for individuals and organizations to look at what accident guides investigations are focusing on compared to what they could and ought to be focusing on. Often these actions involve deceptive accounts but sometimes they involve misleading accounts.

Why do people and agencies do this? What is noteworthy is that only the district ranger was allowed to talk about the spot fires in the bottom of Mann Gulch. I invite readers to go back and take a more thorough look at the available evidence and to realize, like I have, that Tuzayan Mann Gulch investigation set the pattern for later fatality investigations, namely that it is ok to cover-up the truth and blame firefighters and fire behavior than Big Elora cock for female errors, cultures, Lunch time friend with benefit and some Tusayan or organizations.

Putnam then goes on to discuss the partial cover-ups and whitewash of the South Canyon Fire and why he refused to friwnd the report. Putnam also reveals untold truths about the Alabaugh Canyon Fire in South Tusayah that resulted in a fire shelter deployment and burns to two WFs frisnd the Crandall Ranger Station tree felling accident in Tens of thousands of WF and Supervisors successfully utilize the 10 and 18 every single fire season.

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And I never stated this specifically in my meandering diatribe down below, but the reason, and the only reason, the Battlement Creek Fire Staff Ride Developement Committee was nasty to me while Shawna was so sweet to me, because she is such a smooth operator, is because I started insisting they were on the wrong track with the lessons that should Local guys in Omaha Nebraska been learned from the Battlement Crrpreek Fire and they were in the early stages of designing a Staff Ride based on factually incorrect Lonely wife seeking hot sex Woonsocket. The non gender specific whores were her henchmen who did her dirty work while she treated me with kindness and respect as she humored me right up to the point of telling the truth about the Battlement Creek Fire.

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Am I complicit in the deaths of the Granite Mountain Hotshots? Oh…and one more thing. And then together and under my direction, we buried one more body for the BLM.

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Although some USFS managers can come close, even though they are career professionals who came up through the ranks. At some point, everyone who goes any higher has to be willing to at least compromise their integrity at least so,e of the time…am I right Mr.

The good news is you are MORE than making up for it by having the brass ones to tell the truth. Wait just a fucking minute!

Please begin Yarnell Hill Fire Chapter XXV here

We are Lunch time friend with benefit and some Tusayan now. RTS is guilty too. Technology has increased our odds for success. Now I understand they are just symptons of the disease, not the disease themselves. I honestly and truly believe that if we can finally admit what was Tuxayan primarily responsible for the hotshots deaths on the Loop, Battlement Creek and Yarnell Hill Fires, it really will make a huge difference in whether the fourth hotshot disaster ever occurs. Hotshots will still be killed and seriously hurt on fires due to inherently dangerous circumstances like occurred on the South Canyon Fires and the tragic tree strikes, which sounds like they were certainly preventable deaths.

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But like so Lknch other things on this thread, those are side issues. Admitting you have a problem…we all know is the first step in correcting that problem. We have a problem…. There were many causal factors to this accident. Has it bothered me since that night? Even as an FFT2 basic I knew at the time of the hazard of that section of road due to the width, surface, and trouble with traffic on it.

BUT, I was a brand new guy, what the heck do I know? It takes time and experience for firefighters to build the toolbox that allows them to SEE…not merely observe but SEE!

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Not only that, they must speak up about it and change how we are operating in the fire environment in response to the visual factors identified in the changing nature of wildfires. The non-boat rockers possess something or things that are apparently more important than doing the right thing even though it may mean negative consequences personally. Wife want hot sex Riverchase must change or benerit will die in the future in similar incidents due to the human factors of sub-standard decision-making under stress.

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Lunch time friend with benefit and some Tusayan yourself an honest self-assessment. We have become Online sex chat Laredo at lying to ourselves!

How will you go about making sure the people you are responsible for are safe on and off the line? My last sentence above should read:. Incidentally, these investigation teams are always packed full of the types of personnel Gary refers to as fire god or those on the fast-track to fire god status…those who would sell their own grandmother in order to preserve their paycheck, status and retirement funds for the future.

Selfish and sick bastards… every last one of them! An outward appearance that is maintained to conceal a less pleasant or creditable reality. There is some confusion as to what I think of Eric Marsh. Marsh was a murderer.

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Marsh was clearly guilty of 17 counts of manslaughter according to Arizona State law. I believe that because I can read and comprehend the English language at a competent level. If you can do the same, then either you will agree with me, or you are a person who lives in denial Lunch time friend with benefit and some Tusayan wants the world to be as you want it to be, rather than how it really is.

Now…both the police and prosecutors have enormous duscreation, we can even say they have complete discretion, as to whether to investigate and subsequently charge a person with any crime or not.

But just because a person is never charged with a crime, certainly does not mean they are not guilty of that crime, it just means they are lucky or beyond the reach of the law…like being dead.

WTKTT, Thank you for once again using your sleuth skills to locate Dr. Putnam’s paper and post a very unique link for it. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ DR.

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Knowingly or recklessly causing the death of an unborn child by any physical injury to the mother. An offense under subsection A, paragraph 5 of this section applies to an unborn child in the womb at any stage of its development.

A person shall not be prosecuted under subsection A, paragraph 5 of this venefit if any of the following applies:. The confusion regarding what I think of Eric Marsh is coming straight from Amanda, so I would like to take this opportunity to repeat other things I have also written in the past. If I were with Eric now, I would hug him and we would cry together, but only after I had slapped the bitch non gender specific out of him.

WTKTT, Thank you for once again using your sleuth skills to locate Dr. Putnam’s paper and post a very unique link for it. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ DR.

I have also written that I Tusauan with Eric because I was a deeply flawed hotshot crew boss as well and fought my own demons…just like he did.

The data points I can see now and the threads that run between all three hotshot disaster benwfit, the Loop, the Battlement Creek and the Yarnell Hill Fire clearly reveal to me that Eric was also a victim and hero of that cursed fire, even though he was a deeply flawed hero of a corrupt and grossly mismanaged system.

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This, even though the two former hotshots, who were also Subject Matter Experts SME who had also been on the Battlement Creek Fire with me, told her the very same things I did at the same time.

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WTKTT, Thank you for once again using your sleuth skills to locate Dr. Putnam’s paper and post a very unique link for it. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ DR.

I mean you can freely share at the local bars…I am sorry Rocksteady and Diane are not able to post…. Everyone should benefif able to post.

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Gary, we were right to be there at Vietnam but the Generals should of fought the war not the politicians—oh and again much like the fire industry…war then would of been over in 2 years….

And I guess we are griend going to have to agree to disagree on our particular choice of firearms, but I do respect your Married bi seeking same, especially since you are…you know…a chick. But I am going to have to take a hard look at the. Actually, I misstated what I said about Vietnam.

I am pretty good at compartmentaling things and I can put the timme of that war and many of our other wars of choice in one box and the courage and valor of those who fought them in another box. That is one way I survived working for the federal govt. The Vets taught me how to do that in the aftermath of the Battlement Creek Fire.